He forgot to include slavery on the 'right' list and homosexuality on the 'wrong'. Going by the bible's objective morality anyway.

Craig says that baboons have their own morality and that humans have their own. He also says that if you'd "rewind" the film of evolution in place of humans there'd be a different species with different morals. Then he says that it'd be arbitrary to say that our morality is objective and true in comparison to that other species' morals. So Craig is saying that morals of the bible are objectively true to all species. Is he gonna go preaching to snails about the golden rule?

Craig is a cretin.

...without morality define elsewhere. For instance, should he force the raped women to marry her rapist or should he not? How does he decide? Should the woman turn the other cheek or pursue justice? After all, should not the rapist be given another chance as Jesus taught? I'll wait for a reply to this that does not invoke an objective morality based outside of god/religion.

So WLC cannot imagine an objective morality without god. Fine, but that does not mean it cannot or does not exist. There are many, many ways to define morality that are objective. In fact, that is pretty much what the whole realm of philosophy is dedicated to. You start with a premise based on something objective and then rationally apply the premise in novel situations to determine what you should do. I challenge Craig to show me how he applies the conflicting moral teachings of the bible...

@Mercurybath Well then that gets into which interpretation you go with. I have found that, logically the Catholic church is the best to go with as it is the original faith delivered by the apostles (our fist pope was the apostle Peter). The Catholic church put and automatic excommunication on anyone who participated in the slave trade, has always been, against rape, and, while she teaches that homosexuals should be celibate, she openly condemns any sort or hatred or biased against homosexuals .

Craig is a charletan

exactly moral are expression of culturual upbring. and evoled like william lane craig explained. He is 100% correct. For instace your morals would be alot diffrence if you grew up in a Muslim country.

The catholic church dosent think that rape child abuse and torture are really wrong. All moral are subjective. Who decided which moral are objecitve. I could say that "I am awesome " and that is objective . even if you dont belive I am awesome its still true regardless of your opinion.

there are no such thing as objective values. Who determines objective values. Its like relgion - everyone they have the objective truth. but clearly everyone cant be objective correct. The is no objective right and wrong - therefore there is no God. It there are objective morals who determines what they are and how can you tell the diffrence..

@J0EH3AD it was Jefferson.

This argument seems to only be adressing that without God we cannot be sure that our moral values are "correct". Well, it doesn't matter, he admitted that moral values can originate and evolve, and that is all that matters. God is not necessary for moral values to exist, and he is right, what we percieve as "right" and "wrong" may be just the oppisite to another species, and ours are not objectively correct, but they are for us, and that's all that matters.

@Guaguanco11 I don't usually respond or write in the comment area, nothing good usually comes of it. I apologize if i came across as rude. I see your point about the genetic fallacy (however I did not understand how your P1, P2, and C do a good job of explaining that. However, this isn't a genetic fallacy because we aren't just talking about how morals originated, but how they are today(which if you leave God out, they are the same[ie origin and current]). limited characters lol, is this clear?

@IceKnight366 No response?

I cant help myself - this guy is like 6 year old kid who just found that there is no Santa Claus. Yep, mister you are on path of growing up as an adult and I know it is tough - but the reward is sweet, trust me.

@J0EH3AD The goal of Islam is to establish a theocracy - look at Iran, and The Muslim Brotherhood throughout the middle east. This is the opposite of what the founders of the United States did. They NEVER said a "complete separation of church and state", they came to America for the freedom of religion. Christianisty does not attempt to establish a kingdom on this earth, Christ is clear: "My kingdom is not of this world.". Mohammed was a militant that sought to establish a kingdom on earth.

@J0EH3AD We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. - Declaration of Independence (first 2 paragraphs, including the last post I sent you)

@J0EH3AD When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

@OptimisticCynic715 Very nice analysis man!!

@ThisIDig Another who dont know history. Founders?? First they declared complete separation of religion and state. Second - One of them (i think Madison) took bible and cut only pieces which could be used to that society - I dont need to add that almost NOTHING left from the bible :-D Christianity is stupid religion. Eg. 1000 years ago Islamic societies were at their best - totally surpassing every christ****er at that time. Now they totally ****ed up I know. Now we get rid of christianity...

We dont need any gods or religion to have morality. In fact what is needed is only a tiny bit of empathy and responsibility - then all gods can scream and we are better without them. I do not need gods to tell me not to kill people - i can just imagine myself in other shoes. ONLY RETARDS NEED GOD TO BE MORAL, HONEST OR WHATEVER.

Humans have evolved to know right and wrong, our closest relatives on earth, chimps and other primates are not as smart as us but still know right from wrong. Plus, they have a pretty complex society without any knowledge of a God or higher power. They have survived for a long time without going to church.

CRAIG IS A MORON

I thought this guy was pretty cool from his other videos. But I lost all respect for him after this one. If I was a William Lane Craig fan I would delete this video.

@OptimisticCynic715 Haha, well said. I don't think the old testament talks about a God that is real.